Europe needs to get real on defence; Britain needs to get real on Europe
13 February 2025
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South Africa is not Britain. The blowing of the vuvuzela is an act of joyous celebration.
1. Vuvuzelas are hated all over the world, no only Britain
2. Vuvuzela? it’s a simple plastic horn. I’m from Latvia, ice hockey is big here and our supporters were blowing mad the freakin’ horns just like South Africans. We were universally hated among ice hockey international fan community until the international federation banned them during the ice hockey games. We had World Championships in ice hockey here in Latvia and I went borderline mad because of the damn horns as I am living near Arena. So now what? Nobody respects our dear Eastern European tradition? Please write a blog to support us! let us blow our horns with pride!
Please read Charliechops. It will annoy you: that’s good isn’t it?
R5live asked one ordinary south african “why don’t you just sing you have so many fantastic songs and we can’t hear the songs?’ “the problem is’ he said ‘we never know what song to sing because South Africa has 15 languages and football was the place where we left all our differences behind, so i suppose we just all started blowing the vuvuzela together’… I too would like to hear the singing but I will never forget the noise of the vuvuzela when Bafana Bafana came out for the opening game. it was amazing
If only the non-South African fans would leave them be it would be ok. If it was only every fourth or fifth game no-one would care, it’s just irritating because it’s every minute of every game. The worst aspect of them for me is that they drown out all the other crowd noises – remember when you could judge how nasty a tackle was by the gasp of the crowd when it happened? Still, it’s only for a couple of weeks I guess (altho I woudl be happy enough to see them banned from the stadium for non-SA games)
Agree wholeheartedly. However, I do wish Burnley would get rid of their pre-match PA announcer. Easily the most annoying man in British football. I’ve only been there once, about five years ago, and I remember him. That’s how annoying he is.
Well said! Fed up with all the hating that’s going on. It’s just a vent for people who have found the games so far uninspired and truly tedious.
“Football without crowd noise is like a book without words.”
Speaking as a long time Arsenal fan, I have to say I’m used to this… However, the vuvuzela is not crowd noise, it is just noise. It’s as bad as white noise and an assault on the senses. For me crowd noise means singing, chanting, cries of YOU **** when the ref makes an error. It’s not BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ for 90 minutes.
Surprised there’s no mention of last night’s Newsnight hustings today, but maybe not that surprised after watching the five candidates last night. What an uninspiring bunch they are. When the coalition needs fighting, what have we got? Harriet Harman stumbling over her sentences in the caretaker role and five nobodies taking forever to get a leader elected. Not that any of them are of sufficient calibre to dent Common Dave in my view, and seeing as he is the weakest and least charismatic PM we have had since John Major, that says everything about the calibre of the candidates for leader. I don’t count Diane Abbott as a leadership contender by the way.
I’m not impressed by any of them and it’s a sad reflection of the state of the party, which has had all its character and spirit drained by New Labour and the Oxbridge Mafia that have taken the party over.
Career politicians are the worst politicians and that’s all we have, it seems.
Watching David Miliband is like watching a third rate Tony Blair (and I never really liked Blair anyway) with the others pale shadows of Miliband.
500+ complaints to the BBC, there are too many people with far too much time on there hands. Fortunately these whingers will be off watching Wimbledon shortly and leave the rest of us to enjoy the football, vuvuzelas included.
They absolutely should not be banned.
BUT…
Part of the joy of watching the World Cup is experiencing the different crowds. When watching the different countries play one gets a representation (albeit stereotypical) of that country via their supporters. There must surely be a certain disconnect between the team and their fans because of this perpetual drone.
I’m not into football other than during the World Cup but I have heard time and time again players at the end of a match say how the sound of the audience getting behind the team made a real difference.
In all honesty I was expecting a more colourful aural contribution at this South African World Cup. This monotonous drone has led to every single game without exception having the same homogenised feel to it which is a shame.
But the drone of the vuvuzela may have hidden benefits. Just perhaps this could be an advantage to the ‘lesser’ teams from which there have been some interesting results.
Overall, I suspect that if they were suddenly taken away we would feel that something was missing. And I defy anybody, ANYBODY, if given a vuvzela NOT to put it to lips within 5 seconds and blow it until their lungs burst!
Viva the vuvuzela! BZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZZ…
I’m not the banning type but I do wish that the authorities would call time on this incessant plastic drone that has erduced me to watching the World Cup without any commentary for some games. It’s that bad.
Look, if it’s a South African tradition then fine, let’s hear the vuvuzela whine proudly through all of South Africa’s games. It might even make them special. But this infernal drone that never changes pitch, rarely changes intensity, is present for all 90 minutes of every single game, and it’s spoiling the tournament.
Yesterday I watched the end of the New Zealand Slovakia match. NZ scored a deserved equaliser with almost the last kick of the game. Did we hear a crescendo of incredulous cheering to amrk the drama? Nope, not a bit of it. The drone just continued – no louder or softer than before. No human sounds were audible.
It’s a sort of cultural bullying. None of the other 31 nations here, in this celebration of football seem to have any chance of expressing theit own cultural individuality.
It’s just so blinking pointless and so artless.
I agree. I don’t like them, but we shouldn’t ban everything we don’t like.
Hope you stayed in the Grassington overnight as it was a beautiful morning when I went to Skipton earlier today.