The Battle for the Arctic
13 February 2026
Podcast
15 December 2025
What is the future of the Scottish independence movement? How does the SNP rebuild trust and support for independence after a series of bruising scandals? Why did the Scottish First Minister feel disrespected by a series of Conservative Prime Ministers?
Alastair and Rory are joined by Scottish First Minister John Swinney to answer all this and more.
Gift The Rest Is Politics Plus this Christmas - give someone a whole year of Rory and Alastair’s miniseries, ad-free listening, early access to episodes and live show tickets, an exclusive members’ newsletter, discounted book prices, and a private chatroom on Discord. Just go to https://therestispolitics.supportingcast.fm/gifts
And of course, you can still join for yourself any time at therestispolitics.com
For Leading listeners, there’s free access to the Wordsmith Academy - plus their report on the future of legal skills. Visit https://www.wordsmith.ai/politics
Social Producer: Celine Charles
Video Editor: Josh Smith
Producer: Alice Horrell
Senior Producer: Nicole Maslen
Head of Politics: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
1 minute(s) read
Recent Podcasts
13 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
500. Japan, China, and the Fight for Taiwan (Question Time)
Are Japan and China closer to conflict over Taiwan, after the landslide victory for Japan's 'Iron Lady', Sanae Takayichi? Does Trump’s crumbling American-Hispanic vote explain his extreme reaction t... Continue12 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
Alastair Campbell’s diary: Am I still a friend of Peter Mandelson? It’s complicated
I find it hard to think he didn’t hear and see things that made him feel he had to get Epstein out of his life... Continue11 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
499. Is It Game Over for Starmer?
As Starmer begins to lose his key aides and allies, is his departure from Number 10 now a matter of when, not if? Is the UK actually becoming ungovernable? Will the latest revelations about the level ... Continue9 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
I’m sleepless, angry and anxious over this – and I know I’m not alone
Editor-at-large Alastair Campbell on the reaction to the Mandelson affair, the calls for Starmer to go, and what happens to this government - and the United Kingdom - next... Continue9 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
175. Ex-Director of GCHQ: China, Russia, and the Threats Facing the UK (Jeremy Fleming)
Do Russia or China represent a bigger risk to UK national security? Why are we underestimating the threat posed by cybercriminals? Who holds the real power - ministers or spies? Rory and Alastair are... Continue9 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
498. Alastair Reacts to Starmer-Mandelson Turmoil
How should the government and politics as a whole respond to the latest revelations about the scale of Epstein's influence, and Mandelson's abuse of power? If Starmer goes, who and what comes next? Do... Continue8 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
174. Taking On Europe’s Last Dictator: The Fight Against Lukashenko and Putin
How did Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya go from being a housewife to leading a Belarussian government in exile? How did Aleksandr Lukashenko become the last dictator in Europe? Why was Segei, Sviatlana’s h... Continue6 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
It’s quite refreshing to listen to John Swinney in this setting where you can get a sense of humanity and he appeared quite candid. I think he did side swerve some points re education and health service. Many issues are still prevalent in Scotland with regards to the centralisation of maternity services and as a father of a primary school child I still need to be convinced of the SNPs education policy.
On the whole, I thoroughly enjoyed this interview. John is well-read, and answered well and I also think you held him into account, not giving him an easy ride either.
That is what needs to happen for Scottish people to be convinced that the SNP can still deliver for Scotland, and the overall independence question.
I am an independence and SNP voter.
PS. My mother’s family are from Crieff, Rory. I’m still scarred from childhood having to hike up the hill from the town back to my family friends house.