160. Michael Gove: Education, Brexit, and Trump (Part 2)

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  • 3 November 2025

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What is Michael Gove's lasting legacy on education in the UK? Would he have come to his position on Brexit if it weren't for Dominic Cummings? Is Nigel Farage's Reform a better chance for the UK than Labour?


Rory and Alastair are joined by Michael Gove for a second episode answering all these questions and more.


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