203. The Man Taking On Infantino: UEFA President Aleksander Čeferin
24 August 2026
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10 February 2025
How did Ahmed al-Sharaa go from an imprisoned al-Qaeda fighter to the leader of Syria? What is the psychological impact of living a secret life for over twenty years? What is the future of Syria?
Ahmed al-Sharaa joins Rory and Alastair to discuss all this and more.
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You should’ve asked him whether he was tortured in Abu Ghraib prison, since he mentioned it.
Can we have the Arabic version of the interview posted somewhere?
I am surprised you did not touch on Russia’s relationship and whether he will be open to negotiate their bases in Syria for Assad.
Another revolutionary who transitioned- Nelson Mandela and the ANZ