159. Michael Gove: My Journey From Left to Right (Part 1)
27 October 2025
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14 October 2024
How does militant socialism compare to Corbynism? How did Labour’s ‘remain’ campaign go so wrong? And what should Labour be doing about immigration?
On today’s episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined by long-serving Labour minister, Alan Johnson, to discuss all this and more
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