The Battle for the Arctic
13 February 2026
Podcast
20 May 2024
Why did the Tory Party choose to make Liz Truss and Boris Johnson prime minister? How does it feel to be the second shortest-serving chancellor in post-war history? What was the true thinking behind the disastrous Truss-Kwarteng mini-budget?
On today's episode of Leading, Rory and Alastair are joined for the second and final episode of their conversation with former Chancellor of the Exchequer, Kwasi Kwarteng.
TRIP Plus:
Become a member of The Rest Is Politics Plus to support the podcast, receive our exclusive newsletter, enjoy ad-free listening to both TRIP and Leading, benefit from discount book prices on titles mentioned on the pod, join our Discord chatroom, and receive early access to live show tickets and Question Time episodes.
Just head to therestispolitics.com to sign up, or start a free trial today on Apple Podcasts: apple.co/therestispolitics.
TRIP ELECTION TOUR:
To buy tickets for our October Election Tour, just head to www.therestispolitics.com
Instagram:
Twitter:
Email:
Podcast Editor: Nathan Copelin
Video Editor: Teo Ayodeji-Ansell
Social Producer: Jess Kidson
Assistant Producer: Fiona Douglas
Producer: Nicole Maslen
Senior Producer: Dom Johnson
Head of Content: Tom Whiter
Exec Producers: Tony Pastor + Jack Davenport
Learn more about your ad choices. Visit podcastchoices.com/adchoices
1 minute(s) read
Recent Podcasts
13 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
500. Japan, China, and the Fight for Taiwan (Question Time)
Are Japan and China closer to conflict over Taiwan, after the landslide victory for Japan's 'Iron Lady', Sanae Takayichi? Does Trump’s crumbling American-Hispanic vote explain his extreme reaction t... Continue12 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
Alastair Campbell’s diary: Am I still a friend of Peter Mandelson? It’s complicated
I find it hard to think he didn’t hear and see things that made him feel he had to get Epstein out of his life... Continue11 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
499. Is It Game Over for Starmer?
As Starmer begins to lose his key aides and allies, is his departure from Number 10 now a matter of when, not if? Is the UK actually becoming ungovernable? Will the latest revelations about the level ... Continue9 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
I’m sleepless, angry and anxious over this – and I know I’m not alone
Editor-at-large Alastair Campbell on the reaction to the Mandelson affair, the calls for Starmer to go, and what happens to this government - and the United Kingdom - next... Continue9 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
175. Ex-Director of GCHQ: China, Russia, and the Threats Facing the UK (Jeremy Fleming)
Do Russia or China represent a bigger risk to UK national security? Why are we underestimating the threat posed by cybercriminals? Who holds the real power - ministers or spies? Rory and Alastair are... Continue9 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
498. Alastair Reacts to Starmer-Mandelson Turmoil
How should the government and politics as a whole respond to the latest revelations about the scale of Epstein's influence, and Mandelson's abuse of power? If Starmer goes, who and what comes next? Do... Continue8 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
174. Taking On Europe’s Last Dictator: The Fight Against Lukashenko and Putin
How did Sviatlana Tsikhanouskaya go from being a housewife to leading a Belarussian government in exile? How did Aleksandr Lukashenko become the last dictator in Europe? Why was Segei, Sviatlana’s h... Continue6 February 2026
Posted by Alastair Campbell
Both interviews very interesting, thank you. Im impressed by Kwasi’s frankness but flabbergasted by his casual attitude – the lack of serious consideration in his decision making in the face of clear evidence, even when he had serious doubts about people (Truss, Johnson) and policies (Brexit, Mini-budget), that he was fronting is appalling – despite the known impact his decisions will have on the economy and people of the country. It’s like an intellectual game to see what might happen and if it’s a disaster so be it – no thought for the victims. I’m afraid it speaks to a background of privilege and comfort that overrides his undoubted intelligence. This culture of ‘I’m alright Jack’ in conservative politics with its lack of any moral compass whatsoever has been characteristic of the current government over the last 15 years. It has gone way beyond the economy and created serious schisms and dangers which will take years to recover from, if ever. He will now walk away and indulge himself by writing another book or working in the city while thousand of lives are ruined by his wrecklessness.
To him it all seems to be a big laugh.
He was as disappointing as I imagined he’d be.
My family are suffering thanks to his and Liz Truss’ budget and I wanted to try to understand his reasoning but
he came across to me as deficient and despicable.