208. Mustafa Suleyman: Is AI Actually Conscious?
28 September 2026
Leading
16 January 2023
In the first ever episode of ‘Leading’, Alastair and Rory are joined by former Deputy Prime Minister, Michael Heseltine. One of the biggest names in the last half-century of British politics, Lord Heseltine discusses everything from his crucial role in the rise and fall of Margaret Thatcher to his current position in the House of Lords.
Tune in to hear Michael talk about how politics has changed, why he lost the Conservative whip, Europe, Brexit, and the Miners’ Strike.
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