Europe needs to get real on defence; Britain needs to get real on Europe
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26 August 2009
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Spot on as ever Alastair — but utterly shocked by your never having seen one single episode of The West Wing. Do yourself a favour and correct this urgently!
Shame on you Alastair. This question:
“anyone out there know what Dave’s policies on law and order are?”
Should have been:
“anyone out there know what Dave’s policies on anything are?”
What’s worse is Labour’s message at the minute has evaporated. There’s no riposte to anything out of Dave and Georgie’s mouths. Gordon seems to have just given up. The lies and nonsense that the Tories spout needs to be counter-attacked. The public are falling for Dave’s act – and the Government seem powerless to stop it.
I can’t believe you are accusing Andy Coulson of spotting a good headline as if it is a crime…after all you were the master of the art… and as for cultural blah your present leader Gordon is always quick to jump on a passing cultural wagon…susan boyle, ashes win, to name just two recent examples.
ps anyone know what Gordon’s policies for reducing UK debt are??
Alistair,
Firstly – you’re missing the greatest TV show of all time by not looking at The West Wing. I only watched the first episode last month and am now at the end of Series 3. My wife and I never agree on TV shows and she loves it too. Aside from the politics, it’s brilliantly written.
Also, if Chris Grayling has a fondness for likening hardworking cities to shit holes in TV shows, shouldn’t he be likened to Harry Enfield’s Tim Awfully Nice But Dim?
Brian
Ps …anyone out there know what Dave’s policies on law and order are?
I believe he’s in favour. Not sure beyond that though 😉
Liked the blog Alastair, have no idea what Dave’s policies are on law and order. It’s like everything with Dave’s Tories when you raise the subject on policy and commitment they steer onto Labour failures without answering the question. Their all a load of media pleases and lack substance in any policy area. The NHS row was a perfect example of Dave’s emphasis on media relation and attention to image not saving him from talking about policy which clearly isn’t his comfort zone. I strongly believe that a televised debate between GB and DC would truly unmask the Tories and wipe them out for another five years.
Couldn’t agree more AC, classic Tory guff. Ready for the cameras but not ready for government!
I’d quite like to hear your views on the Lockerbie bomber, or the filesharing cutoff plan. Those are the far more interesting stories of the day, far more so than a poncy Tory comment about The Wire made a couple of days ago.
For people like me who read your blog and already dislike the Tories, you’re preaching to the choir when you tell us they’re disconnected from reality and sometimes offensive.
You can only write what you feel about writing, but it’s irritating to see a blog centred on such an insignificant story, ruthlessly exploited by you to show up the Conservatives yet again, where I’m sure people would rather hear your opinion on more serious stories.
I guess you’re following the “offense is the best defense” doctrine, but it devaluates your blog to see the crosshairs on Tory foolishness in the midst of more serious Labour foolishness.
I completely agree with this blog, BUT…
I suspect many ordinary voters will have responded to it positively – two of the three vox pops on the Beeb last night said they agreed.
Agree with your Comments Alistair. But I have to agree with the other posters who say the Labour Party are letting the Conservatives get away with it. I don’t know what Cameron’s policies are on anything apart from fox hunting and inheritance tax.
Policy #1: Convicted terrorists who have contracted cancer shall die a lonely death in prison
Not much of a TV watcher myself – but re Dave’s policies on law and order, probably best acquaint ourselves with “The Bill” which is apparently popular.
Alastair, you have watched the huge decline in the UK over the past 12 years and you still cling to the socialist dream…. Education system ruined, NHS no better in spite of billions, unemployment high, one in six households without a wage earner, child poverty worse than when you came to power, biggest debt in the industrialised world …I could go on but you cling to the socialist dream in spite of the evidence…it will not work, your party and government are devalued and have no chance of winning any general election in the next five years…not that the opposition are much better but at least they are not deluded…
I live in a deprived part of inner city Manchester; I am also obsessed by The Wire. Consequently I feel both confident and well-qualified in saying that Moss Side is about as much like The Wire as working for MI5 is like a James Bond film. Some of the routes into central Manchester from the south pass through Moss Side. My guess is that Grayling has been chauffeur-driven into the city one day, seen the oh-so-shocking-and-terrifying sight of a few young black guys hanging around chatting on a street corner and instantly assumed they must be gun-toting smack dealers. The comparison he made is lazy, offensive and absurd.
Homicides in Baltimore (population around 636,000) in 2006: 276.
Homicides in Greater Manchester (population 2.5 million) in the same year: 59.
Ominously I received a flyer tonight for a literary festival close to where I live – including Cameron “In Conversation”. The blurb reads “Has the Conservative party persuaded voters that they have the policies and the right team to form the next Government?”
If I were Dave, I’d be looking for a PR team who could come up with a plug without a question mark in it.
It’s possible the Cameron line on law and order is similar to our own plastic haired Conservative leader Harper. The answer, if asked the question would perhaps be (albeit with an English accent rather than a goofy Canadian one) “well, I’m going to speak a lot of gobbledygoop that means nothing, but really what I think is: Guns bad. Jail good.” So then all the voters who live in middle class and upper class ville who spend many worrying hours installing burglar alarms and CCTV on their properties can feel safe and snug as bedbugs that they are voting for the party who can keep their 2400 sq foot houses (for the middle class), or 10,000 sq foot mansions (the rich) safe from those raggedy ruffians who roam the streets waving Desert Eagles and Barettas in the faces of decent tax paying citizens. Because you know, that happens to everyone with more than a grand in the bank when they walk down the High Street…
A couple of years ago on a commercial talk radio station Cameron was asked whether he prefered the policing style of Gene Hunt or Iain Blair. Instead of saying, Gene Hunt is a fictional character off the TV so it’s a stupid question. He said he couldn’t answer as he hadn’t seen much of Life on Mars.
Grayling’s comments about the Wire were misguided and have backfired on him. However, it is a magnificent work and scrutinises politics as much as it does drugs, education, policing and journalism. This blog post echoes Mayor Royce defending himself against Councilman Carcetti. One of the themes of the Wire is that we do not confront our social ills honestly – our institutions are too wrapped up in targets, propaganda and personal advancement. I have a number of misgivings about Grayling, but this blog misses the point entirely – and I really do suggest you watch the Wire. It really is as good as everybody says and there are lessons there for all post industrial societies where drugs and unemployment are commonplace.
Hi Alastair
I’ve just read your Burnley FC post, and guess what? We had six new Burnley FC chants entered into our Football Chants Competition in 2008/9.
Who are we? We’re from Get On. Last season we launched a chant competition to inspire football fans to show off their natural skill and wit with words and then potentially be inspired to go on to take a Skills for Life course.
Burnley fans came out in their numbers for us! If you want any more information don’t hesitate to contact me. We’ve launched a new competition for 2009-10, asking fans to enter their chants via YouTube, take a look at http://www.direct.gov.uk/geton. Perhaps Burnley could take the title this year? Which title? Well, you decide.
‘anyone out there know what Dave’s policies on law and order are?’
I’d guess they would be the same as the Tory policy on most issues; Try and clear up the mess they will inherit after 12/13 years of a Labour government, no easy task I’m sure you’ll agree.