Europe needs to get real on defence; Britain needs to get real on Europe
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We had high speed tilting trains in the 70’s, because of a few technical difficulties the project was abandoned. The Italians picked up the technology and now we buy Pendolino trains from them.
Thatcher’s assault on the railway industry killed off the workshops where we built our trains such as Horwich and Crewe, only Derby remains. The latest high speed train to be put in service came from Japan, built by Hitachi, Manchester’s Metrolink trams are Italian, the latest batch are being built in Germany.
The future may be the train but we won’t be building many of them unless we try to start up a rolling stock industry, but actually employing people making things that matter seenms to be a bit old fashioned.
The age of the train.
After a lifetime of driving, clocking up maybe two million miles on motorcycles, cars and vans, I am now only willing to travel by train.
Willing, but not always able. I live in Lincoln, if I want to go anywhere apart from London then the car has to come out. Why? Because the all other destinations end up costing more and taking more time by train.
Sadly, we seem to have little public or political appetite for train travel in the UK. We’re too insular, greedy and selfish to travel with others. We prefer the comfort zone of our little tin polluters.
And am I the only person in Britain who thinks that the sight of a motorway full of lorries tailgating each other, and looking somewhat like a train with countless engines, is completely mad? Let alone ecologically criminal.
If only there was the political will to spend and build a proper high speed rail network, and get rid of this shambles of a privatised system to boot!
but that is the fun of twitter,to be brief 33
Brits should be jealous/envious of trains on the continent. Just had a look at J’aime le train webpages on SNCF website. I want to go next year. How are we encouraged to use trains in this country? Pay whacking premiums for weekday travel and suffer bus replacement services at the weekend. Where’s the incentive? Maybe we should aim to get our act together and have our own J’aime le train event? Why not do it in 2012?
John Cooper Clarke had similar thoughts to yours on Twitter regarding Japanese Haiku: “To convey one’s feelings in seventeen syllables is very diffic…”
Or Al Murray’s Pub Landlord on the rail links on either side of the Channel: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=P3af_DdNp00
Yes, 140 characters is a serious limit on Twitter. That is why everyone whom twitters should have a blog. You can then provide an outline (or headline) in Twitter and more detail on your blog. In the same way that you have just done. So well done!
On the rail issue does the UK still have a rolling stock industry? It would be a great time to invest in high speed rail now – needs some thought and planning – but because of the economic climate costs should be less.
I bet your trip to Brussels was a dam site cheaper than trying to get from Crewe to Reading for tonights game. But come the final I will be on train. whather it,s the gravy train for Burnley remains to be seen. See you at Reading.
If I recall correctly, France is McDonald’s most profitable market within Europe, even more than the UK.
Stephen Fry seems to do about 8 Twitters at a time.Twitter has helped me discover your site AC and make new and interesting friends via your blog.
I am relieved it wasn’t a real explosion in Paris
Good luck tonight otherwise i’ll be seeing you at QPR.
Alistair can you explain why myself as a self employed persom iM limited to what i am able to claim as expenses but the goverment can claim virtually whatever they want ..?
Are these rules of what they are entited to claim be published ?
Lucky you. I love trains, fast trains, slow trains, underground trains, electric, steam or diesel trains. I love them so much that, before the dawn of time (well before Thatch became PM), I worked eight years for the blessed British Railways. (I jumped into Big Oil shortly after she got the key to No 10)
We ought to be more proud of our trains in the UK. They’re not the fastest on the planet but we do run more per mile of track than most other countries manage.
What might look to some as a classic British fudge, viz. semi-nationalised infrastructure plus private (but often subsidized) operators, works really quite well. The cross country service for example is ten times better now than it was in BR’s era (and vastly better than its equivalent in France). It’s really a great British pragmatic third way. Hooray for Labour for rescuing us from Railtrack.
PS The McDo phenomenon pre-dates Sarkozy, we did an exercise about it at my French evening classes over two years ago (just before one about Mme Sego Royal)…
Look at it as an expansive and liberating 21st century form of haiku rather than a constricting kind of blog. Communication is as much what’s left out of the frame as what’s included. Giving the reader the opportunity to infer is as useful as – and possibly more globally productive than – writing reams which insist all. Blogging often degenerates into telling. Tweeting at its best is trust encapsulated; a trust which then demands dialogue, as progressive clarification – rather than degenerative obfuscation – becomes the name of the game.
I wouldn’t compare good tweeting with effective soundbites, though. Soundbites aim to wrest the media’s attention from the political opposition so that the public then lap up an edited reality. Good tweets aim to encourage a multi-way communication of equal peers. A world of a generational, and intellectual, difference.
Good luck Burnley! I like Burnley, living as I do near Keighley. I quite like Reading with their super sensible manager, the now-not-so-young Stevie Coppell. But not as much as Burnley, and certainly not as much as Bradford City.
I quite like fast French trains as well.
Greetings from Eurostar. A brief update on the at times surreal ‘J’aime le trsin’ events I just did between Paris and Brussels. It was very French, and very enjoyable. A team of beautiful hostesses in red suits rustled up a bit of interest, a group of passengers gathered in the bar, I chatted away about the importance of high speed trains to our economic and environmental futures, how jealous we were of the TGV, how slow we were to build the tunnel,how shameful it was that of the thousands of miles of high speed track in Europe, only 68 were British, and how transport minister Andrew Adonis was determined to put that right. Then the European director of SNCF, Frank Bernard, and I took questions. They ranged from Obama to The Queen (the film) but in fact were mainly about trains. Bit of a tricky moment on the return leg from Brussels when a man with a leather jacket and a quizzical look asked me if TB and I were helping the Americans cover up information about UFOs in the UK. I assured him we weren’t, but he was unimpressed, later telling one of the red suits that I had to say that, but I knew the truth!! Interesting observation by Frank Bernard – he said whilst he was happy to accept the plaudits about the superiority of French trains, the Brits were way ahead of the French in terms of understanding how we had to change our lifestyles to meet environmental concerns. Nice guy, nice event, though I was shocked he had never heard of Burnley, let alone aware that such an important match was taking place tonight.
We just had National Train Day here. The subject of trains makes me sad as the last years have uncovered documentation which proved many environmentalists’ suspicions: the automobile industry bribed politicians across the country to stop the funding of the railways and kill the cripple the industry. There’s a glass roofed train that goes from coast to coast in Canada and many say it’s the best way to see the country.
Love the TGV and Eurostar. Break a leg tonight.
I think the game’s highlights are on itv later.
Break a leg as Em said
gary
I put a message on yesterday on the subject of depression.
How do I get back to that blog discussion, as I seem unable to from the new blog subject on Eurostar