395. Trump, Xi, and how China outsmarted America

  • The Rest Is Politics

  • 16 April 2025

  • Posted by Alastair Campbell

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Does Trump want to turn America into China? How come politicians - including those on the right - want to nationalise steel in the UK? Are we witnessing a seismic change in German politics?


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One response to “395. Trump, Xi, and how China outsmarted America”

  1. Alistair, I just wanted to say that I enjoy your podcasts (all of them). You and Rory always have unique and thought provoking ideas. I’ve been listening to the BBC and our own National Public Radio (NPR) News Hour for news. I always think it’s good to listen to other’s countries’ views of what’s going on in the United States so I get a better picture of what’s happening in my country. Just know that you have at least one person that enjoys your podcast programs.

    Hopefully we (my country) will survive the tiny handed, orange dictator “want to be” and the oligarch (musk) who’s trying to tear the U.S. apart.

    By the way, I’ve started calling DOGE (doggy) like Kara Swisher (VOX).

    Keep up the great work!

    Alan

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