Europe needs to get real on defence; Britain needs to get real on Europe
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brilliant; reading this took me back to the ’97 election when political argument, campaigning and passion for politics were a big part of my life. Older and probably more cynical I may be now, but having read this,feel that ‘frisson’ again………….where’s my badge?!
Did they mention tuition fees? Are they even aware that students from Scotland get their fees paid for by the state (well by the English taxpayer really via the unjust Barnett Formula). Doesn’t it matter to them that English students are leaving uni with £10,000 more debt than Scottish students?
Why any English student would vote Labour is beyond me.
First, bad luck about Terry’s goal. Second, thanks for another positive portrayal of young people. I am a teacher in a State comprehensive and although obviously some young people can be a nightmare, the majority are good decent people who think more than you would guess from their media portrayal. I lament the disrespect shown for politics and politicians which, even if they must accept some of the responsibility, is in general a distortion. Like you I am pleased that through it all young people can still find inspiration leading to passion which can in turn inspire someone like you who has been around the block a few times
I finally managed to catch a glimpse of you on TV at Turf Moor v. Chelsea. I did also spot Jimmy McIlroy! Leon Cort impressed me. We still need to sign two new players to make sure we will stay up.
My local party had a very high average age. Two years ago a couple of students and a sixthformer got involved. They have transformed things. The shame is they met resistance at first, not least by bringing in people who were not totally signed up members, just people curious to see. Local parties can be very unwelcoming. Lesser people than our young members would have given up. They are now pretty much in charge and at last our activists are active
Wyrdtimes: why should a student from England vote Labour? Because life is about more than just student loans. Labour has made so many positive changes to the country that one shouldn’t focus on the one thing they got wrong!
AC, as they’re at MMU send them up to Bury South if they want to help out, it’s only 5 miles away or 15 mins on the tram. We have a good Young Labour group they can meet and they can stop Cameron getting his hands on the key marginal he wants most.
I don’t think it is an issue solely with political parties but is a much wider issue for society as a whole. When you look at community groups – they tend to exist of people who are retired. When I first attended my local party as someone who wanted to get involved – it certainly wasn’t made welcoming and it made me realise quite quickly why the local party was regarded by some members as a closed shop. One famous quote about holding a recruitment campaign at the university by the then chair was “they will only cause trouble”!.This perception has to change throughout society – not just for political parties.
Why would English students not vote for labour?
Most of them think about wider issues than just their pocket! They consider the increase in availability of places at University for people of all social classes which has happened as a result of labour policies. Do you believe that any incoming Government will reverse these charges?
Maybe they consider the improvements in NHS waiting times or the advances in school exams pass rates or the fact that there is more opportunity to get a job after university because the Labour Governments since 1997 have prioritised those areas. Or they look at child poverty, equality of opportunity, access to work training for the less qualified! All successes of Labour policies!
Not all students are so single minded. I suspect you will be not voting for anyone because no-one is going to promise to go down the Scottish route regarding tuition fees. The value of a University education is far higher than the fairly nominal ammount charged right now. Ask an American student how much a college education costs!
Thank you very much for the lift! It was great to meet you and I’m glad we cheered you up. I owe you for the book. 🙂